Not Comics Special 3: Fantastic Four

Welcome to Not Comics, a sub-series of Make Ours Marvel where Michael Kaiser and Jon M. Wilson take a break from talking about Marvel’s spandex adventures and instead focus on Marvel’s en devours outside of comics.  In this special…Fantastic Four!

Special Guest: Blaine Dowler


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Episode 11: Freaky Friday of Doom

Welcome to Make Ours Marvel, the weekly show where Michael Kaiser and Jon M. Wilson read chronologically through Marvel Comics’ spandex adventures and discuss their thoughts with little to no authority.

In this episode…

  • Strange Tales #104 (Jan 1962)
  • Fantastic Four #10 (Jan 1963)
  • The Incredible Hulk #5 (Jan 1963)

Images from Discussion:

Strange Tales #104 Paste-Pot Pete...Marvel's first Spider-Man! Fantastic Four #10 This CAN'T be real... Oh wait, it's not. Whew! The Invisible Girl Pay no attention to the maniacal laughter! I wish I were you! (stereo) Where's Ant-Man when ya need him? The Incredible Hulk #5 The Hulk...beaten! Abominable Hulk? Adorable Hulk, you mean...


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Episode 9: When a Fish-Man Loves a Woman

Welcome to Make Ours Marvel, the weekly show where Michael Kaiser and Jon M. Wilson read chronologically through Marvel Comics’ spandex adventures and discuss their thoughts with little to no authority.

In this episode…

  • The Incredible Hulk #4 (Nov 1962)
  • The Fantastic Four #9 (Dec 1962

Images from Discussion:

The Incredible Hulk #4 Jumping or flying? Yeah that's flying... The first Hulk-Clap! Bruce Banner popping through or is Hulk just following orders? Bruce isn't REALLY in control. Alright! An epic alien vs Hulk showdo....awww it's just a Commie... The Fantastic Four #9 Some genius. Don't be the jerk Stan wants you to be! Standard hitchhiker uniforms. How the Human Torch flies! A lightning strike or misinterpreted drawing?


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Episode 8: The Worst Step-Father

Welcome to Make Ours Marvel, the weekly show where Michael Kaiser and Jon M. Wilson read chronologically through Marvel Comics’ spandex adventures and discuss their thoughts with little to no authority.

In this episode…

  • Strange Tales #102 (Nov 1962)
  • The Fantastic Four #8 (Nov 1962)/li>
  • Journey into Mystery #86 (Nov 1962)

Images from Discussion:

Strange Tales #102 Kylo Ren + Tribble = Wizard The Fantastic Four #8 Creepy doll face. How the Human Torch's powers work in 1962! Looks like Sue AND likes his Thing face? Perfect woman. Journey into Mystery #86 Simba...!


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Episode 6: My Secret Identity

Welcome to Make Ours Marvel, the weekly show where Michael Kaiser and Jon M. Wilson read chronologically through Marvel Comics’ spandex adventures and discuss their thoughts with little to no authority.

In this episode…

  • Journey into Mystery #84 (Sept 1962)
  • The Incredible Hulk #3 (Sept 1962)
  • The Fantastic Four #7 (Oct 1962)
  • Strange Tales #101 (Oct 1962)

Images from Discussion:

Journey into Mystery #84 Thor vortexes are pretty awesome. The Incredible Hulk #3 Hulk and Rick bombarded by Fantastic Four rays! Ways to make the Hulk even less important in his own book... Fantastic Four #7 Because everybody thinks like Reed! Strange Tales #101 Sue and Johnny would later develop an extreme case of asbestosis.


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Episode 5: If He Be Worthy

Welcome to Make Ours Marvel, the weekly show where Michael Kaiser and Jon M. Wilson read chronologically through Marvel Comics’ spandex adventures and discuss their thoughts with little to no authority.

In this episode…

  • Journey into Mystery #83 (Aug 1962)
  • Tales to Astonish #35 (Sept 1962)
  • The Fantastic Four #6 (Sept 1962)

Images from Discussion:

Journey into Mystery #83 If Easter Island and Thing had babies. Doofus cheery face! Tales to Astonish #35 Marvel's first retcon? Hank Pym invented unstable molecules. Fantastic Four #6 Belt buckle elevator opener! Wait...Reed Richards invented unstable molecules. Dear Yancy Street Gang... Love, The Thing Doctor Bad Influence Clean and simple...like brain surgery!


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Episode 3: Why Should I Want To Be Human?

Welcome to Make Ours Marvel, the weekly show where Michael Kaiser and Jon M. Wilson read chronologically through Marvel Comics’ spandex adventures and discuss their thoughts with little to no authority.

In this episode…

  • The Incredible Hulk #1 (May 1962)
  • The Fantastic Four #5 (Jul 1962)

Images from Discussion:

Incredible Hulk #1 The Hulk! A monster of mostly regular stature... ...and screaming...and screaming...and screaming... The first iThumbnail! Smarter than the Leader? Fantastic Four #5 Johnny loves reading the Hulk, too! Thing loves Sue! (Reed? Not so much...) Cool time travel tech. It is forbidden for you to interfere with human history! Doom escapes again for the first time.


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Episode 2: A Greater Scientist Than Any of You

Welcome to Make Ours Marvel, the weekly show where Michael Kaiser and Jon M. Wilson read chronologically through Marvel Comics’ spandex adventures and discuss their thoughts with little to no authority.

In this episode…

  • Tales to Astonish #27 (Jan 1962)
  • The Fantastic Four #3 (Mar 1962)
  • The Fantastic Four #4 (May 1962)

Images from Discussion:

Tales to Astonish #27 Put the antidote on the floor first...arghtoolate! Fantastic Four #3 New fantastical car and building! Abandoned panels from FF #3. Masks are for kids! The Human Torch! Enter the Thrantastic Three! Fantastic Four #4 Real smooth shave! Mister Fantastic! Giganto! (And his awkwardly placed arms...)


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Episode 1: The Time Has Come

Welcome to Make Ours Marvel, the weekly show where Michael Kaiser and Jon M. Wilson read chronologically through Marvel Comics’ spandex adventures and discuss their thoughts with little to no authority.

In this episode…

  • The Fantastic Four #1 (Nov 1961)
  • The Fantastic Four #2 (Jan 1962)

Images from Discussion:

Fantastic Four #1 The Marvel Universe is born! Page one of the Fantastic Four bible. Page two of the Fantastic Four bible. Meh. Fantastic Four #2 Better cover on the inside! The Thing! We HATE being Skrulls!


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